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[Noise] I am good. Good.

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And then, can you introduce yourself?

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Tell us your name and where you live

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My name is Bashirwabigoye Geroffe

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Try to speak louder

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I am called Bashirwabigoye Gerroffe

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I live at Masenga

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Mutambu District, Province of Bujumbura

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So, we have just met you in this coffee farm

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We think it's yours.

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Of course

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So, for how long have you been growing coffee?

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In fact, I have been growing coffee for about 20 years

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Yeah  [Silence]

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And then [Silence]

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How did you start growing coffee

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What were the causes, how did it happen?

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So, how it began is that my parent, dad

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Was a coffee farmer 

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He showed me how it's grown and how it generates money

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and I thought about growing it too

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[Technician to Interviewer] wait, in fact 

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I want to prevent you from saying that hmmmm...

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Because it's hard for us to edit it out later

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So, you just nod the head

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So, let's repeat that question

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So, old man!

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Yes!

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Talk to us and tell us everything

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like when you're bragging in a bar saying

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well, that's how I started growing coffee like this

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because I could see money in it

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In general, just brag like in a simple conversation

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let's begin with that question

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and continue answering all remaining questions just like that

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Okay?

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Yes

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We would like you to tell us about your story

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How it began so that you could start growing coffee

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When was that, how old were you? 

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and information of that kind

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and tell us for how long you've been growing it

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Age?

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yeah

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I might have started growing coffee 

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Raise your voice!

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I started growing it when I was around 27 years old

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because my parent, my dad

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is a coffee farmer too

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that's why I thought about growing it too

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because there's is cash

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but nowadays

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It no longer generates good money

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because it requires a lot of work

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covering the soil

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cutting grass

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buying it  from owners

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paying for transportation

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Hence, you should increase the price of coffee

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to at least BIF 1000 per Kilogram

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Yes, you've just said that it takes a lot of money

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depending on how many trees you have

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how much crop do you harvest? 

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for example last year

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because I have around 350 trees

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I harvested around 600 kilograms 

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Yes

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and then

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and what challenges do you often face when growing coffee?

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the main problems you face

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what are they? 

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Growing coffee

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The problems we face

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arise when we're weeding

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removing weeds from the plantation

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it takes a lot of resources

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as I have said for example moisturizing

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it requires a lot of money

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because you have to buy the grass with cash

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cutting it is paid, transportation is paid,  

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You can see that all of this involves money

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and then

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that harvest you get

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where do you sell it?

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The harvest that I got last year was sold at the Mutambu factory

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Yeah, at Migoti?

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Yeah, Migoti

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Next, what what are you proud of

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or the benefits you've received in working with Migoti?

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The benefits that I have seen are that 

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those people process their coffee at home

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it's not the same as at the factory

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because at the factory

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it's bought for a lot of money

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compared to that which is processed at home

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let's consider for one kilogram

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this year, they bought at BIF 700

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they raised the prices

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but for those who processed it at home

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they couldn't get BIF 700

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they get around BIF 400 and so

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Yeah

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Can you explain to us the difference

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Between processing from home

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and selling your harvest at the Migoti factory?

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No, you would want to sell at the Migoti Factory in Mutambu

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because that's where there's more money

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Yeah...yeah

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And then, what benefits have you seen? 

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Even though you have just said it's better to sell there

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What benefits have you received for selling there?

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The benefits that are there are that

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selling at the factory

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and processing at home

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are not the same

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when you sell at the factory

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you're done with your job as a farmer

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but if you process it at home

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you have to keep looking at it

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so that thieves may not steal it

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you keep watching it

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keeping it on the sun and in the house when it rains

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you can understand that's where the benefits are

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yes

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Then, maybe before, when the Migoti factory was not here yet

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you could sell to others

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but we would like to know the benefits you got

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when you started working with Migoti

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comparing to those others

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Before Migoti was not here yet

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there used to be a factory in Rubanda dubbed Conelco

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I sold there for around 2 years

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It's the same as for yours

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the benefit is that when you sell at the factory

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it's not the same as when you process it at home

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Yeah...yeah

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and then, what things have you seen that the Migoti Factory

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or the processing factory of Migoti

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can change so that things can be better than this?

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This Migoti Factory

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What they should change

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is to increase the price of coffee

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because even someone else who's not me would want to grow it

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and even if they might have given up

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they would resume working on it

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Yeah

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We want you to tell us a little bit about your family

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You told us a lot, but we didn't hear about

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I want to go back when you told us your age

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tell us your age, your name, and the size of your family

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my age is 46 years

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Yeah

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I was born on Masenga Hill

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Mutambu District

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Bujumbura Province

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and because it was hard for us to give birth, I have two kids

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yeah

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even my wife is up there near on the hill

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she's harvesting the beans that we sowed in the coffee plantation

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so that we could get crops to eat

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do your children attend school?

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No, they haven't started yet

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but one of them is starting this year

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so, they are still too young

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They are still too young

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Yes, and next, what are the main...

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When you get the harvest and sell it at the factory

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the money that you get, what does it help with in the family?

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what are the main things you use it for?

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when I get the money from the factory

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the main things it helps me with is to moisturize the plantation's soil

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so that I can pay the workers

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the rest is used in the household to avoid poverty

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How? In what? 

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we do buy clothes to wear

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we do buy chicken or goats, jus like that

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yeah...yeah

